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Shadow2321
Okay, so here is the stats of the Carro on my other File:
Body: 0
2-Wheel Legs: 0
L-Arm: Diavolo: -31
R-Arm: Giavollotto: -6
R-Shoulder: Fionda: 0

Options:
2 OC generator TS
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So, how should I improve it? What level shold the Giavollotto be? And most importantly, WHAT SHOULD I NAME IT?
PENGUIN
Let the name come to you.

It will, don't worry smile.gif

Tune the diavolo heavier and the giavollotto lighter. Beam weapons still own at very light tunings...so you have one weapon to take big heaps of health off (diavolo) and one to slowly speed up the process smile.gif

I don't know what the fionda is...let me check...
Blue God
The Fionda is a generic grenade for the Carro. That means tune it as light as possible! It may decrease the durability of it but, it compensates for it by increasing the ammo and the blast radius of the weapon. Going light is the way to go for grenades in general.
Shadow2321
I dunno.. I kinda liked Gatlings at -99 in the first phantom crash...besides, Diavolos chew through ammo quickly enough as it is, so you won't get to use it often due to lack of ammo.
PENGUIN
Well, if you wanna go light, go ahead but do dual diavolos instead of the one and one giavollotto. Beam weapons chew through ammo fast, too.
Shadow2321
well, I'll stick with what I got, so It'll be a long road to +99 from -30... but hey, I'm sure it'll kick booty when It's done.
PENGUIN
Play the stock market, man.

Buy the "Ambitious Management" stock on day 12 and sell on 76, rinse and repeat. Each time you do it you about double your money.
Shadow2321
I have ound a name for my Carro: Nova!!!!
Shadow2321
I started a new file and almost COMPLETELY replicated roy's mech according to the guide. Carro:

+50 Body
+32 2wheels
+25 Diavolo
-50 Favilla
-99 Vesuvio
0 Temporale

120/40 OC
HK Insurance

Skull paintjob

I didn't save over my nova file, though, and had to play the stock market from day 4-76 twice. Icall it Sputnik. It gave me a couple ideas for Nova...
BlackZ
This is my first SV.


[I][U]Zero

Body: Light 30
Legs: (tred) heavy 50
R-arm: heavy 50 (rakenten)
L-arm: Light 99 (same)
R-shoulder: heavy 99 ( chain gun)
L-shoulder: heavy 99 (same)
Black with flames paint sceme

I don't have the chips that gave it the power anymore, but it still does fine.
Shadow2321
I played the stock market twice, tweaked the SV in the suggested way, and felt it deserved the name SuprNova. Here are the almost final stats:
CARRO:
Body: 0
2Wheels: 0
L-Arm Diavolo: +25
R-Arm Giavoletto: -99
L-Shoulder Fionda: -3 (-99)

!20/40 OC (1 TS)
biggrin.gif
it does prettty well offline, but I have no idea how well it would do online, as I have an old PS2, and no online adapter.
If you try it online, tell me how it did, and for just all around, online or off, tried or not, tell me where you think it needs tweaking. I'm planning on switching the fionda with a Vesuvio.
Blue God
are you sure that leaving the right shoulder empty is what you want on a Carro?
Mr.B
if your not putting anything in that shoulder spot then you might wanna think about a -99 side shield. more defense with a small loss of speed
Shadow2321
actually I'm working on a difesa on that spot right now so my -99 Giavoletto will have more armor. I can't put it on right now though, it weighs too much.
Blue God
then make the difesa lighter and/or make the 2-Wheel heavier.
Mr.B
*slaps forehead

I think that is what he was doing
Shadow2321
Blue God...WHAT THE HECK DO YOU THINK IM DOING!?! THE THING ISNT GONNA GET LIGHTER BY ITSELF!!! *Slaps Blue God a new one* If there's one thing I know how to do is make an overweight SV underweight.
Blue God
in that case, make the diavolo lighter.more ammo and damage potential
Mr.B
...

Blue god, you're 19 right? Did it take you that long to get that stupid?
Shadow2321
Theres a reason I made the diavolo heavier, Blue God. I guess your a wee bit too stupid to understand that. A -99 Giavoletto isn't going to do that much damage in a head on attack. That will also last me to an ammo cube should I run outta ammo for the Diavolo. There is another way to tune a weapon other then light. It's called HEAVY. -99 Diavolo + -99 Giavoletto = I'm hosed against a ranker. Not to mention the weapon hp. THe difesa is for my GIAVOLETTO.
Numoso
QUOTE (Blue God @ Jul 22 2006, 03:45 PM)
in that case, make the diavolo lighter.more ammo and damage potential

are you making comments that are untrue still Blue God? lol

making the Diavolo lighter will reduce its damage for increased ammount of ammo, but that doesnt make it better, it makes it much worse for less armor penitration. If you'd get this setup SV against mine online you'd see a diffrence in the damage of what I'm saying.


Diavolo is not to good at a really low tune, mid-low (-20 – -30), mid-high (30-40) and high (80-99) tunes are what I like it at though smile.gif just the 99s have low ammo.


GET AN ONLINE ACCOUNT BLUE! mad.gif
BlackZ
lol numo
Numoso
QUOTE (BlackZ @ Jul 24 2006, 10:12 AM)
lol numo

what? laugh.gif I want to show him that that KHT isnt one of this best rolleyes.gif or whatever the piles of junk we all throw together are *shrugs* I DONT KNOW, but Blue God should be pwned by the SGs tongue.gif
Blue God
I am think about something. i think that when I get pwned by something, it ticks me off. I also want to say is why are people bashing me? I am trying to make top-quality SVs and people say that they are pieces of junk. Is it because people are afraid of the potential of my SVs?
Blade
Well since you asked.
Read only if you want to.







1.You refuse to admit that 99+SGs are better than 99-SGs.
2.You claim your SVs are good enough to stand in online without actually going online.
3.You stated the obvious.
4.(Go to Numo's post)
5.You didn'get online to prove that you are right.
Blue God
I am starting to think that the people have a tendency to be eliteists and don't want to say that their SVs are not originals. I have the following reasons.

1)They like to make things -99 or +99 to mask their problems with skill
2)They don't like my SVs because it is not to their "standards"
3)I am the only one who gets bashed so that I have to react with anger especially if they just don't get how excellent my top-quality SVs are.
4)I know how the SV would go online but it doesn't mean that it is a gurantee on how it will be when I get online.
Blade
QUOTE
I am starting to think that the people have a tendency to be eliteists

Even if we are,you should remember this quote.
QUOTE
people with their noses up at the air should be taught a lesson online even though I don't have an account for it yet.

QUOTE
They like to make things -99 or +99 to mask their problems with skill
I took down 2 people using light 99 assualt rifles.ONLINE.Its already hard enough when protect can come up with firing rates like that and with the pitful damgae it does too.Why did i use that sv?It was because I forgot to change from my training sv to my online version.
QUOTE
I am the only one who gets bashed so that I have to react with anger especially if they just don't get how excellent my top-quality SVs are.
Who said they were top-quality in the first place.

EDIT:Also we make them 99+-because its better.
Numoso
its all about armor penitration BG, not how many bullets can hit them, think about it, if you could nail me with 100 bullets to kill me in 2 minutes, and if I could nail you with 20 buillets and kill you 30 seconds, the bullet ammount wouldnt really matter there for you wouldnt be able to hit the 100 bullets needed if you were also getting nailed on with a much more powerful weapon.

ask BZ about last nights game with him, madmax, and I, or hell ask madmax. Its not the ammount of bullets you have, but the number that hit and damage they do. I can take from 1/6 up to 3/4 of a players health off from a from a frontal attack with 1 shot.


play with us tonight BG! It will prove what we have been saying, or what your saying, its all about your "skill" or its all about your ammo. we can then prove one of these.
Ky Kiske
I'll turn this forum around and drive us straight home!

Ease up on the smack-talking guys. Blue, if someone doesn't like one of your suggestions, that's their privelege. Don't make it about you vs them. (Get online and do that tongue.gif)
Numoso
QUOTE (Ky Kiske @ Jul 25 2006, 11:59 AM)
I'll turn this forum around and drive us straight home!

Ease up on the smack-talking guys.  Blue, if someone doesn't like one of your suggestions, that's their privelege.  Don't make it about you vs them.  (Get online and do that tongue.gif)

QUOTE
I'll turn this forum around and drive us straight home!

that made me lol biggrin.gif



QUOTE
(Get online and do that tongue.gif)

and I totally agree with this! tonight BG, just get on please so we can decide on what is the truth >_<
Blade
Well I was in a bad mood at the time so sorry about that.We'll settle this online.(If BG does get online in the first place)
Akiraka
Woah, hey guys. Damn, my internets been down, so I haven't been around. BG still doin' his thing huh? Did he show up, Numo?

BTW are you still using that cheap-ass +99 Cacci scoot man? You gotta let that thing go, hah.

When is the next time you guys are getting online anyway?
Blade
We usually get online around 10 EST.There are some new players too.

It'd be nice to know why BG doesnt bother with going online.For some unknown reason he won't get online.If it's a modded PS2 or whatever let us know.

Yes numo is still using that thing. dry.gif

BTW did we just hijack this thread?
Numoso
QUOTE (Blade @ Jul 28 2006, 11:28 AM)
We usually get online around 10 EST.There are some new players too.

It'd be nice to know why BG doesnt bother with going online.For some unknown reason he won't get online.If it's a modded PS2 or whatever let us know.

Yes numo is still using that thing. dry.gif

BTW did we just hijack this thread?

QUOTE
It'd be nice to know why BG doesnt bother with going online.For some unknown reason he won't get online.If it's a modded PS2 or whatever let us know.

yeah, he is hiding from us smile.gif BG, SHOW UP IF YOUR NOT AFRAID >:[



QUOTE
Yes numo is still using that thing. dry.gif

my Carro is sexy >.>
PENGUIN
My Proton is sexier, Numo smile.gif
Numoso
QUOTE (PENGUIN @ Jul 28 2006, 04:03 PM)
My Proton is sexier, Numo smile.gif

we shall see sometime >_< lol, I love my Carro though smile.gif and I'm getting close to my next model SV, its either going to be Carro or Zwerg, but I'm tinkering with em still smile.gif
Shadow2321
I WANT to go online, but my parents won't let me get an online adapter. And if I do get online, and BG gets online, and we face off, we'll see what happends when a -99 Diavolo and a + 25 Diavolo face off... and if you think you'll break my Giavoletteo easily, you're wrong. Remember the Difesa? biggrin.gif
Durandal
im new here too XD but i think i can hold my own online, we'll find out when i do a bit more tunning on my carro, *soon to be kht* not liking the tuning very well, aaaand gunna work on my proton a little more
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