SpiderMan 3 was ass. The acting was sooo forced it sucked all the credibility out of the movie. That and Emo Spidey fucking destroyed any kind of enjoyment to be had from the action sequences. Bruce Campbell saved the movie from totally sucking imo. It seemed as though everyone except Tobey McGuire was acting bad on purpose or some shit. Total waste of time and money. But hey, at least my eight year old little brother loved it.

Yowza! I guess I'll have to matinee it then.

This movie sucked. It SUUUUUUCKED!!! Oh dear God, it wasn't even a case of too much hype, it was just horrible. There's no hope for Fantastic 4 now.

Wow... It was really that bad?
Well, I guess I can judge for myself when I go see it later today....

This just highlights one ofthe worst things about comic book movies. Compression of storylines. And WTF at the ending? I was seriously like, "WTF is the faggotry?". I wanna go into detail, but I don't feel like changing type colors or anything.

But... SPOILERS

WhyTF did Venom come and go in 20 minutes? And why oh why was the CGI so noticible on REAL PEOPLE. They're already THERE, why model them? And why did Tobey Macguire dance for 5 minutes? The emo hairdoo? The, oh, let me just happen to go to a bell tower to think things over?

END SPOILERS

I was making jokes the entire movie, because it was wasn't good enough to give fulll attention to.

Emo Spiderman was so fucking halarious.

Damnit, I was hoping this would be a good movie. How could you fuck it up with something like the Venom arc to draw off of? There's so much damn potential.

Sounds to me like Sam Raimi really just doesn't want to make another Spiderman. So, he decided to give the fans their wish and get Venom out of the way, and proceeded to fuck it up in the hopes that nobody would want him to make a fourth.

I think I read an interview with him recently where he was talking about potentially being offered The Hobbit where he said that these large scale movies just weren't his thing; that it was fun for awhile, but it's not what he'll be remembered for.

The acting was forced and the flow was not natural.

While thinking of a way to describe me experience seeing this film, I stumbled across a funny little quote. It doesn't express the movie exactly, as there were some good parts, but it's still funny as hell.

This movie is a paradox. I had no idea it was possible to suck and blow at the same time.

I can't remember what that's from. A cookie to the person who can tell me.

Anyway, this movie was the equivalent to a child taking his first roller-coaster ride. There were ups, there were downs, tears, and laughs.... then vomiting and confusion.

I don't think I've ever been so impressed and disappointed in a movie all at the same time. The graphics were extremely well done while the story just got downright silly at times. I'm dead serious when I say this: It looks like they put together the character list and CGI, then filled in the gaps with actors (both professional and amateur) and story. Lame tie-ins, coincidental happenings, and even character assassination. They handled Venom so poorly, it's such a shame. No offense to Topher, but we really should have seen a different casting for Venom. Wasn't Brock a larger fellow?

Best quote from the movie:
Aunt May: Spider-Man doesn't kill people
Me: But Batman does!
Audience: LAWL!

Topher? As in Topher Grace from "That 70s Show"? If so, they really dropped the ball on casting, even moreso than when they cast the not so pretty or hot Kristen Dunst as Mary Jane.

Yes, "Eric" from that 70's Show was Eddie Brock.

I did put the audience on LOLERSKATES a couple times though. But the ending just left me staring at the screen like, "That's it?".

Exactly.
Spoilers:
I kept expecting a cliff hanger of some kind. Even though Sandman ended up getting away at the end... he had Spiderman's forgiveness... which gave the impression of 'Oh, he's not going to do anything bad again.', rather than 'OMG, HE'S COMMING BACK IN THE NEXT MOVIEZ!'.
Harry's part in the entire story was just weird. I really hated the modernization of the flyer. A snowboard? Are we really that desperate to attract a younger audience?

Should've just bit the bullet and made a 4th, leaving Venom as a cliffhanger thing so he got to be the main villian instead of the Batman and Robin Returns Forever deal they pulled with 3 at once.

I read this thread minus the spoilers before I went to see the film. This thread actually made me pre-judge the film. Like all films though, I reserve judgement to be made at the theater. 5mins into the film I forgot about this thread.

Allow me to disect each opinion without being rude.



The acting was the same as the other 2 Spidey films. I think you expected too much and are trying to find reasons not to like the film. Picking on the acting is always a result of this. Emo Spidey was the epitome of comic relief.



There's nothing but hope for F4 because that series can only get better after the craptastic first film. Looks like you don't have much to say or elaborate on here. Another hater spreading his wings.



Oh yeah...you're one of these guys who wanted to sit through 2hrs of nothing but Venom badassery. That's comical. There's so much story here and soo many loose ends tied up, I can see how you missed all of that because you were pre-disposed with the Venom government cheese line. It's not about Venom, it's about Peter Parker!



Simple minds flock to messageboards. How can you THINK that you read something. You either read it or you didn't. Sam Raimi doesn't know what he wants to do. He said if he was offered the job to do the Hobbit AND had Jacksons approval, he would do it. But right now he doesn't know. And as for your first comment, how shallow can you get? He just threw Venom in there to appease the fans and then fucked up the rest of the movie?!?! Have you seen it yet?! This film would have been just as great without Venom and adding the Venom arc was the cherry on top. I heard people complaining at the theater that there wasn't enough Venom. PLEASE!! Did you read the comic? Before the Venom character was unveiled, there were several issues with just Spidey and the black suit. It's more than just Venom.



Everyone wants to be an expert on acting yet I don't think there are any actors here on these forums. Maybe you could have done better?



Danny boy, I hate to bring you into this but come on man. Does it really matter that Brock was larger in the comic? Did you not see that once he took on Venom he was BIGGER and MUSCULAR!?!? Venom was not handled poorly. Again, a statement without elaboration. How was Venom handled poorly!? Oh and then you pick on the flyer because it looks like a snowboard. Seems like you're reaching to me.

Opinions are like assholes, we all have them. I just wish the opinions on this thread were more informed and educated.

Do yourself a favor if you are reading this thread and haven't seen the film yet. GO SEE THE FUCKING MOVIE AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELF. My opinion, it's the best of the 3 Spidey movies. I thought the whole Spidey and Friends thing was awesome. You'll know what I mean when you see the film. It had GREAT action, GREAT special F/X and a GREAT story line that tied together all the loose ends. They could stop here and never make another Spiderman film.

Oh and for you Venom naysayers, SPOILER: Peters professor still has some of the alien lifeform. Venom could very well come back.

I'm gonna have to side with T on this one. I'm holding off judgment until I see it. It seems all opinions of this movie are either stellar or horrid, no middle ground. It's like what I've experienced with Borat in my field of work.

I'll have to say that I'm not with T on this one. You liked it, I didn't, and neither did anybody that I went to see it with. I can understand the emo Spidey, but bell tower plot device? GAY.

And you said something about the comics? 3 issues just about the black suit? Was there dancing in the comics? Did he turn emo? He was just bad. The bit with Harry, was good, the random dancing, not so much. The jazz restaurant was good though. And I did not like the Spidey and friends thing.

I guess there are just a shit load of uninformed assholes running around then. Opinions can't be right or wrong. This movie fell short of my expectations. So sue me.

No, it was bad. Really bad. Kirstin"Leather-face" Dunst ruined the damn flick for me outright. That and the Harry partial amnesia thing was totally retarded. Emo-Parker pissed me off cause He's supposed to be a 24/7 asshole( I.E. the Gwen Stacy jazz club scene) not this stupid ass fake pimp thing. I really wish that Sandman would have been more fleshed out though and saved Venom for another movie.

Never said you were right or wrong. The problem with your opinion is that you are focused on ONE tiny aspect of the film. There is soooo much more than the dancing. So much more. But again, I'll let others decide how they feel. There are far worst things out there. Like 100 degrees worse. I won't say Ghost Rider because I didn't see it. Dare Devil though....

Hey did anyone who saw it notice, SPOILERS: Harry perfected Green Goblins enhancement technology. He walked out of the chamber and was still sane.

There are more reasons why I hate this movie but I just don't have the time to explain, nor do I remember most of it(Midnight screening). But I'll comment on that stuff as I remember.

Got more for ya!

Quote from Eddy Brock(Venom's) orgin:



This is for the whole church bell complaint:



Oh and that spoiler I had in my other post about the professor could lead into Spidey 4 having the Carnage arc.

Yeah, I noticed that. But Sigma just reminded me of some other things. Amnesia? C'mon man. And dancing doesn't have anything to do with the assholery I was expecting once that thing attached to him. But I already said this. And why did he just happen to go to a bell tower to think? And I don't like how they wrapped up Venom/New Green Goblin/Sandman all in one movie. Venom is a reappearing villain, and Harry eventually hires the Hob Goblin. Maybe that little bit of symbiote the good Dr. has might do something, but I doubt they'd use it in the next movie. Too forward thinking of them. And Eddie is dead anyways. So Bah.


And Ooookaaaaayyy, about the Bell Tower: We never saw Reed Richards in this movie. There was no background on why he went to the bell tower, he just randomly did it. Good try though.

Looks like simple minds also don't understand that obviously absurd comments generally aren't meant to be taken seriously. The first paragraph was meant to be a stupid way of passing off the negativity. As for the second paragraph, try interpreting that at something above a 4th grade reading level. I knew I read something (this in fact), I wasn't certain if what I was properly remembering the actual gist of what Raimi was saying. Upon looking it over again just now, it seems that I wasn't quite.

In any case, the fact that somebody who generally has decent taste actually liked the movie is enough good news that I honestly don't care.



Having not seen the film, I don't know how they set up the bell tower scene, but Peter finally rejecting the Symbiote, using the ringing of the church bells to weaken it, is classic. Had Raimi done it any other way, Spidey fans (myself included) would have been disappointed.

I thought it was pretty good. Not as horrible as some of you make it seem and not as good at Vers makes it seem. The sandman parts were cool and I enjoyed the Stan Lee and Bruce Campbell cameos. I think they should've left a villain out though. As cool as Sandman was and how good a job the actor did with the role I didn't think he was even needed. Should've just focused on Green Goblin and Venom.

The fight scenes were stellar though and I actually laughed at the emo spidey. He totally should've banged that Russian chick instead of just eating her cookies though.

It probably wasn't as good as the second one but I think it was better than the first.

I heard some things about the movie from my friends who saw it at midnight. So after all the bull they told me, I went to see it. Sneaked in, btw. I knew it wasn't worth my 8$'s from the start.

Since I don't really criticize movies, I'd give it an 8 or 7 at the most out a 10. I heard Venom's line,"Gotcha!". Reminds me of the old Marvel vs. Capcom...ending sucked.

WARNING: Do not read my post if you don't want any spoilers. There. I said it.






I didn't elaborate because I didn't want to spoil parts of the movie for others. Meh, screw it now. There's been too much discussion to even bother coloring text.

As for why it matters... well... Venom is one of my all time favorite characters. Yes, they got the general look down, but it's the details that matter.

Visually, Venom looked more like a black Carnage. Yes, I did notice he was taller and slightly larger. However, he still looked sleaker. This is a comicbook we are talking about. In the movie, the difference looked to be, what? 6 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier at most?

http://www.inkietos.com/wp-content/200509/29/venom.jpg

http://www.superherotimes.com/assets/newsi...VenomStatue.jpg

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers.../venom_vol3.jpg

This is the Venom I know and love. In the movie, I never once saw him with his tongue out. That's a defining physical characteristic. You rarely see an image of Venom WITHOUT his tongue out in the usual fashion.

Also, I don't ever recall him teaming up with others and I certainly don't think he was the kind 'sweet talk' Sandman into helping him. Essentially, as unrealistically coincidental as it would have seemed, I would have prefered one of the badies fighting Spidey and the other joining in on the ruckus to take advantage.


Fixed, btw.

However, I do like the thought that Venom could come back and/or even spawns Carnage.

As for High Tech Harry, meh. I guess I just don't like the pop culture reference of the Snowboard glider. I seem to remember in the cartoon that Harry just used the old outfit. I also seem to remember the idea that the 'voice' speaking to both Harry and his Father was a Demon of some kind.... I find it hard to believe that the Demon could be silenced so easily. Remember, he still saw the image of his father. Image in the mirror does not equal sane.

You know what, screw everyone else who is bitching, I agree with T for once. It was a good movie.

Well, I'm not saying it's the worst movie ever.... but it could have been better.... and it certainly didn't live up to the ridiculous amount of hype surrounding it. Right now I see it as being on par with or even being slightly better than X-men 3. Not horrible, but not really worth the excitement either.

Okay... I love how you bolded the part that helped you, but forgot the rest of it that pretty much shows that Topher Grace was a fuck-up in casting, so I'll fix it.

Loath as I am to defend anything that Versellios is in favor of, I'd heard that Venom in Spider-Man 3 was partially based on the version from the Ultimate universe; more a dark reflection of Peter Parker than the muscle-bound Venom of the 616 continuity. For what it's worth, Wikipedia corroborates this.

They should have just eliminated the Sandman as a character, and cast Thomas Haden Church as Venom. Two simple changes, much better movie.

I'd have to agree with Kurenai.

Brock should have been a bigger guy, and with the symbiote, he should have been much bigger.

Also, shouldn't have been such a short fight versus Venom. Most of the fight was trying to kill The Sandman while Venom masturbated to Mary Jane hanging by a thread.

Fuck you Sigma! Emo loving hippy camel humper. Spider Man 3 was the shit! It had all that rage and chest exposure of Toby! H4WT!

But really though, I thought it was a pretty good movie. THough I thought it was terrible the way *whats his name* got killed off. Fucking bullshyte. I thought they could've done a better job with Venom, but I LOVED that he used his "Web Shield" when fighting Spidey. Juz lik3 in teh g4me!1

I also saw the trailers for Resident Evil 3 movie, Pirates 3 and Twansformos. All of course, in fucking Japanese. Well, SM3 was in English but had Japanese subtitles...

The Sinister Six

Also, Eddy Brock was tiny. After shit went down he started working out and got bigger. Then after the symbiote took him over, it increased his already bulky frame. Since this is a movie and liberties were taken, we never got to see Brock workout like a madman to increase his frame. So Topher was indeed a good pick.

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Taken from Eddie Brocks bio:

I think I'm the only one not complaining about this cause I knew this already. Also if anyone paid attention his name was Eddie Brock Junior thus placing this movie partially in the Ultimate universe and not the 616.

Ultimate Universe? Bah... stupid alternate universes.

Quite frankly, I don't have any comic book stores near me, so I have to go with the few issues I've bought while visiting Louisville, and the cartoon.

As for the teaming: Wikipedia says that was only for a short while and that he eventually turns on his team-mates. My thought wasn't really around the actual teaming more as it is about Venom's personality. He didn't form the team (as he did in the movie) and he eventually turns on them. He's way too unpredictable.... and does his own thing most of the time. Does this seem like the kind of guy to restrain Spiderman while another guy beats the shit out of him? Nope. Seems to me Venom would have wanted to do the damage himself.

Venom's just crazy like that sometimes.


Hey you know what pisses me off about Hollywood? Wouldn't it have been cool if they could have fit the Fantastic 4 arc into this film thus making it more authentic?!?! BUT NOOOOOO....Marvel owns all the characters but separate studios own the movie rights to such characters so we'll never see any of those awesome crossovers! THAT...FUCKING...SUCKS! I'd pay $10 for a movie ticket if Hulk had a cameo in the next Spidey film. There are so many fucking awesome crossovers in the Marvel/DC comic universe and we won't get to see them. At least there's the possibility of a Superman/Batman crossover.

Shit just sucks!

Oh, and I don't know why people don't like agreeing with me. LOL. Everyone's like, "I had to slice up my arm a few times to agree with Versellios" I'm not an asshole or anything. I CAN be one, but I'm not. Lately I've been trying to be as open minded as possible. I even want a PS3 now! Throw me a bone!

New Fantastic 4 for the win! That's the one with Spiderman, Hulk, Wolverine, and I think it's Ghost Rider, right? Funny thing is they already made movies with all four too. Wahoo!

Anyway, if Topher is supposed to be based on a different and skinnier Brock from the "Ultimate" universe... I still don't let them slide. Mixing Ultimate with "stock" is ridiculous. I've been out of comics since the Age of Apocalypse, so I'm way out there, and know nothing of this "Ultimate" garbage, other than the art sucked balls when it first came out in graphic novel format at Barnes and Noble.

Secret Wars movie? I love that idea.

I've still got that issue of Secret Wars with Spidey on the cover when he first discovers the symbiote. Need to get back to Carthage and dig through all my comics...

Mille, IIRC, a lot of the Spidey movies are based more around the Ultimates universe than the more conventional Spidey fare that a lot of us grew up on. Although I think the first movie released before Ultimate Spidey, they shared a lot of plot devices to trim down the origin story and "modernize" things a bit. Organic web shooters is a prime example that comes to mind.

Someone explain to me why the stock version is called "616"? Also, what's supposed to be more canonic/official nowadays? They should probably just ditch all the old school stuff we've grown up with, since "time" and everything is really skewed due to real life technology and whatnot being in the comics. I mean, original Spiderman is like 50+ years old now, but he still looked pretty young in the last comic book I saw.

Thank you guys for completely ruining my desire to see this movie.

Venom was the selling point for me on this movie, plain and simple.

I'm not a comic book fan, I know next to nothing about what's actually supposed to happen.

But I did spend a lot of time watching the cartoon, I've got no idea which one it is, the one that was on when I was a kid, the kickass one. And there was really only one thing I remember from those cartoons: Venom. Venom is the villian I remember the most, because he was fucking awesome to a...I can't even remember how old I was 8? 10? year old kid.

But if he's only in the movie for 20 minutes, then the trailers lied to me, and I will gladly wait several months to spend three dollars to rent it.

I could give two shits about Spiderman's character, I wanted to see fucking Venom, tounge out and kicking ass.

Marvel vs. Capcom, I remember Venom's phrase "We are Venom", and I just can't picture Eric Foreman saying that right...

The trailers lied to you? Dude, I work at a movie theatre, the only trailer that included venom had him for less than a second.

Agh, at least be accurate when describing your woeful ignorance of film by saying something like "I had no idea what this movie was going to be about, but I heard people saying Venom over and over so I thought it'd be two hours of non-stop Spidey-versus-Venom action."

Eric Foreman should have said that before he was about to die...it would have been a good line.

I heard, "We are Venom" in Spider-Man Unlimited as well.

No tongue out either.

Then it's really no big deal that the films been ruined for you.

I think I saw Venom's tounge out like maybe once in the movie or it may have shown in his mouth. I don't really remember, but I know I saw something like his tounge.

Having followed the comic and watching all 3 films, I'll have to say WHERE THE FUCK DID THEY GET ALL THAT SHIT IN SM3!?! >:[ Why does parker have to show his face to everyone, in the comics it happens like once or twice, he does it like all the fucking time in the movie. Spiderman at this point is just living off the name, the movie itself isn't true to the comics, too many BS in between the good spots in the movie. Overall I thought it was a soap opera romance movie w/ comic book characters.

I enjoyed this movie, until about 2/3rds in. Then I got bored. Evil spidey was hilarious, especially because Tobey Maguire in a sweatshirt with his hair combed down totally looks like Kannon. Spider Man has a kind of... MUSTACHE FEELING
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